Talk:Linux kernel

need date of first Linus/Linux kernel

also could add some specific references

What do you mean? Release .1 of Linux, from kernel.org? I can track that down. Or do you mean the first ftp server Linus threw Linux up on and "shared to the world"? Also please sign your posts with at least your name, but putting ~~~ after it Eric M Gearhart

Tanenbaum

There's a famous period where Dr. Andrew Tanenbaum and Linus, whom Tanenbaum originally regarded as an upstart but later came to value, bickered amicably over details of how a small OS such as Minix or Linux should design its kernel. I think we might reference this famous controversy somehow--it is well documented on the web (and if fun to read about).

Haha yes I know exactly what you're talking about. Basically becuase Linux is a monolithic kernel Dr Tannenbaum stated "you wouldn't have gotten a very good grade on this project if you were in my class" lol. It's on Google Groups, I just have to find it. --Eric M Gearhart 04:28, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

OK there's a Wikipedia article on it here, so I can use the sources from that article to build up another one, however shouldn't just a link to a specific article that covers the debate be included? --Eric M Gearhart 04:56, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

I would suggest just a comment about it decorated with a reference which points off to an external website. Don't know about you, but I don't have to write an article (or polish a brought-over Wikipedia one), and besides, it has been pretty well covered all over the web.Pat Palmer 09:21, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

P S - Thanks for the note about signing. I did know, but sometimes I forget to do it.Pat Palmer 09:21, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

Holy cow! This article has really improved since last night! Great job, guys! --Joshua David Williams 09:22, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

I know it's probably just a figure of speech, but "I'm" not a guy. Proud to be an honorary one, though :-)Pat Palmer 09:25, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

Pat I use "guy" as a unisex camaraderie "all inclusive" type thing too... so you much get that from me as well --Eric M Gearhart 09:58, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

I have to give credit to the Espresso Frapaccino I had last night for this edit :-) --Eric M Gearhart 09:58, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

need to move page

Groan. The URL for this page is not nice. Linux_(kernel). How about we move it to Linux_kernel and redirect the existing this there? Also, after doing so, it would be nice to link the first occurence of "Linux kernel" on the Linux page to the new page. I don't have time to do this now, but the sooner someone does, the better. I don't know how to redirect (yet).Pat Palmer 09:34, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

Or better yet, we could fix any links and do speedydelete on the remains.Pat Palmer 09:35, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

#REDIRECT [[Newarticle]] is how to do a redirect. Yes I suppose having the article at Linux kernel makes more sense folks. The disambig page and a couple other places can be cleaned up pretty easily (take a look at "What links here" in the toolbox on the bottom left if you're curious) --Eric M Gearhart 09:54, 7 April 2007 (CDT)

Thoughts

Putting in the kernel version is optimistic - it is such a moving target that it is bound to be constantly out of date. Also, I think Linux history is so tied to the kernel that I don't see the need for a separate article - it makes sense for a history in the Linux_kernel article, in the GNU article and in the Linux_distribution article.
--Morten Juhl Johansen 06:25, 1 August 2007 (CDT)