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::Angry crusading style is exactly accurate--it is neither for not against Edwards. The quote reflects the angry ("greed" "killing" "stealing") style (and was repeated by the news media).  Many newsmen commented on the switch in style.  As for historians, well I'm a historian of campaign techniques. :) see [http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0018-2745(196901)2%3A2%3C33%3AAAACTO%3E2.0.CO%3B2-S "Armied Admen and Crusaders"]
::Angry crusading style is exactly accurate--it is neither for not against Edwards. The quote reflects the angry ("greed" "killing" "stealing") style (and was repeated by the news media).  Many newsmen commented on the switch in style.  As for historians, well I'm a historian of campaign techniques. :) see [http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0018-2745(196901)2%3A2%3C33%3AAAACTO%3E2.0.CO%3B2-S "Armied Admen and Crusaders"]
:::I'm inclined to agree with Warren on this one; it's not really for us to decide if it was "angry" or not; if it was aggressive then why not say so, but "angry" I'm not so sure is the best word choice. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 22:11, 4 January 2008 (CST)
:::I'm inclined to agree with Warren on this one; it's not really for us to decide if it was "angry" or not; if it was aggressive then why not say so, but "angry" I'm not so sure is the best word choice. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 22:11, 4 January 2008 (CST)
::::Of course Warren and RWK are very, very obviously right. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 22:25, 4 January 2008 (CST)

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Is Johnny his real name? Maybe in any case it would be better to begin the article with John Edwards and mention the full name later, as we've done with e.g. Tony Blair. John Stephenson 01:11, 10 November 2007 (CST)

Angry Crusading Style

I agree with the paragraph quoted below and am no fan of Edwards, but it's presented in a biased way, so it should be rephrased.

After leading in polls in Iowa for much of 2007, Edwards switched to an angry crusading style attacking lobbyists and power brokers in Washington, charging, "This corporate greed is killing the middle class, killing American jobs, and it is stealing your children's future."[1]

By January 2008 he was in a close three-way race in Iowa,

Firstly, "angry crusading style" is a rather negative way of phrasing it. Secondly, mentioning those facts in that order implies that Edwards's decline is due to the style shift. That's for historians to decide, not us. --Warren Schudy 21:46, 4 January 2008 (CST)

Angry crusading style is exactly accurate--it is neither for not against Edwards. The quote reflects the angry ("greed" "killing" "stealing") style (and was repeated by the news media). Many newsmen commented on the switch in style. As for historians, well I'm a historian of campaign techniques. :) see "Armied Admen and Crusaders"
I'm inclined to agree with Warren on this one; it's not really for us to decide if it was "angry" or not; if it was aggressive then why not say so, but "angry" I'm not so sure is the best word choice. --Robert W King 22:11, 4 January 2008 (CST)
Of course Warren and RWK are very, very obviously right. Stephen Ewen 22:25, 4 January 2008 (CST)