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:In a volunteer organization, I can think of reasons why an official might expect to be unavailable for 90 days -- travel, illness, etc. Should there be a mechanism where such an official might, in advance of the unavailability, declare the situation and have a reviewed, revocable handoff to a reserve member? This could avoid situations where we are all wondering about the status of an individual. --[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 15:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
:In a volunteer organization, I can think of reasons why an official might expect to be unavailable for 90 days -- travel, illness, etc. Should there be a mechanism where such an official might, in advance of the unavailability, declare the situation and have a reviewed, revocable handoff to a reserve member? This could avoid situations where we are all wondering about the status of an individual. --[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 15:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
::A temporary leave of absence sounds reasonable to me.  Write one up.  [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 15:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
::A temporary leave of absence sounds reasonable to me.  Write one up.  [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 15:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Let's try some language. Add to Section 3: "A Council member may request a temporary leave of absence, during which the member will be replaced by a designated reserve member.  Such leaves shall not exceed 120 days in a year''; the member may also request shorter leaves of absence, the sum of which do not exceed 120 days.''  The relevant Council shall approve the request."
:::My own feeling is that it benefits us to keep an active rota even with shorter leaves; the reserve member selected by the regular member is apt to continue policies of the principal. --[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 15:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

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  • Each year, half the members of the two Councils shall be elected.
  • For newly elected members, the term of office shall begin on first of January for the Editorial Council, and on first of July for the Management Council.
  • Any Citizen may nominate and support one or more candidates for a Council.
  • A Citizen who is supported by another Citizen becomes a candidate by declaring the intention to serve for the whole term.
  • Any Citizen accepting a nomination shall retreat immediately from any involvement in the election's organization.
  • The candidates collecting the most votes shall be elected.
  • Citizens who received votes may serve as reserve members.
  • A Council member who becomes inactive or unavailable for a period of 90 days, shall be replaced by a the reserve member receiving the next highest votes.
  • In the absence of reserve members, interim replacements may be appointed by the Council concerned.
  • Any Council may propose a change of its size by an even number of members; this proposal shall be subject to a referendum held together with the next election.


change to:

  • Each year, half the members of the two Councils shall be elected.
  • For newly elected members, the term of office shall begin on first of January for the Editorial Council, and on first of July for the Management Council.
  • Any Citizen may nominate and/or support one or more candidates for a Council.
  • A Citizen who is supported by another Citizen becomes a candidate by declaring the intention to serve for the whole term.
  • Any Citizen accepting a nomination shall retreat immediately from any involvement in the election's organization.
  • The candidates collecting the most votes shall be elected.
  • Citizens who received votes may serve as reserve members.
  • A Council member who becomes inactive or unavailable for a period of 90 days or more, shall be replaced by a the reserve member receiving the next highest votes.
  • In the absence of reserve members, interim replacements may be appointed by the Council concerned.
  • Any Council may propose a change of its size by an even number of members; this proposal shall be subject to a referendum held together with the next election.

D. Matt Innis 19:54, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

In the final point, "any" should be "either". There are only two, after all. Otherwise agree. -Joe Quick 01:42, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Of course! Then it would be:
  • Each year, half the members of the two Councils shall be elected.
  • For newly elected members, the term of office shall begin on first of January for the Editorial Council, and on first of July for the Management Council.
  • Any Citizen may nominate and/or support one or more candidates for a Council.
  • A Citizen who is supported by another Citizen becomes a candidate by declaring the intention to serve for the whole term.
  • Any Citizen accepting a nomination shall retreat immediately from any involvement in the election's organization.
  • The candidates collecting the most votes shall be elected.
  • Citizens who received votes may serve as reserve members.
  • A Council member who becomes inactive or unavailable for a period of 90 days or more, shall be replaced by a the reserve member receiving the next highest votes.
  • In the absence of reserve members, interim replacements may be appointed by the Council concerned.
  • Either Council may propose a change of its size by an even number of members; this proposal shall be subject to a referendum held together with the next election.

D. Matt Innis 11:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Before any more progress is made on this Article, please see this.


Following our discussion below, I have added the following: Russell D. Jones 14:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Section One: Election Cycle

  • Each year, half the members of the two Councils shall be elected. Elections for the Management Council shall be completed by June 25 of each calendar year. Elections for the Editorial Council shall be completed by December 24 of each calender year.
  • Elections shall be run by an "Elections Committee" appointed by the Management Council. Any citizen, including officials but excepting members of the Management Council, may serve on the elections committee.
  • The elections committee shall maintain all nomination and ballot pages on the Citizendium.
  • For newly elected members, the term of office shall begin on first of January for the Editorial Council, and on first of July for the Management Council.

Section Two: Nominations

  • Any Citizen may nominate and/or support one or more candidates for a Council.
  • A Citizen who is supported by another Citizen becomes a candidate by declaring the intention to serve for the whole term.
  • Any Citizen accepting a nomination shall retreat immediately from any involvement in the election's organization.

Section Three: Elections & Reserve Members

  • The candidates collecting the most votes shall be elected.
  • Citizens who received votes may serve as reserve members.
  • A Council member who becomes inactive or unavailable for a period of 90 days or more, shall be replaced by the reserve member receiving the next highest votes.
  • In the absence of reserve members, interim replacements may be appointed by the Council concerned.

Section Four: Council Size

  • Either Council may propose a change of its size by an even number of members; this proposal shall be subject to a referendum held together with the next election. If passed, the new seats shall be filled immediately from the pool of reserve members as above for inactive or unavailable council members.
(added missing "the" in Section 1). I can live with this, but I'd like to clarify an issue.
In a volunteer organization, I can think of reasons why an official might expect to be unavailable for 90 days -- travel, illness, etc. Should there be a mechanism where such an official might, in advance of the unavailability, declare the situation and have a reviewed, revocable handoff to a reserve member? This could avoid situations where we are all wondering about the status of an individual. --Howard C. Berkowitz 15:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
A temporary leave of absence sounds reasonable to me. Write one up. Russell D. Jones 15:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Let's try some language. Add to Section 3: "A Council member may request a temporary leave of absence, during which the member will be replaced by a designated reserve member. Such leaves shall not exceed 120 days in a year; the member may also request shorter leaves of absence, the sum of which do not exceed 120 days. The relevant Council shall approve the request."
My own feeling is that it benefits us to keep an active rota even with shorter leaves; the reserve member selected by the regular member is apt to continue policies of the principal. --Howard C. Berkowitz 15:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)