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== Sub Workgroups? ==
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"Computers" seems awfully broad to me.  Perhaps we could break this down into more specific workgroups?  Is there currently a policy on workgroup breadth? --[[User:Jim R. Wilson|Jim R. Wilson]] 12:23, 7 February 2007 (CST)
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:We eventually need a set of subgroups, but since we currently have only a handful of active people, it's really not worth it at this point.  What were you thinking of working on?  If you want to help out with [[personal computer]], I'd be much obliged. -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] ([[User_talk:ZachPruckowski|Talk]]) 12:29, 7 February 2007 (CST)
:I don't know why but in my browser, I cannot get back to the main page from here, so I am providing the link explicitly right above here.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 00:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


One thing I am planning to focus on, once we've recovered from the Slashdotting, is recruitment. Then we'll have more active editors and authors and more interest in making subgroups.  In the meantime, could you be persuaded to pretend that there is a subgroup you desire and proceed to plan, and work on articles, on behalf of that group but in the context of the Computers group?  (Make sense?) --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 12:33, 7 February 2007 (CST)
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==Pseudocode==
Do we have any standard definition of pseudocode we should be using?  If not, I would recommend that we adopt one for use whenever we are not talking about one particular language.  This would bring a more consistent user experience for our readers.
--[[User:Nick Johnson|Nick Johnson]] 09:53, 9 February 2007 (CST)
:The above was moved over here by me -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] ([[User_talk:ZachPruckowski|Talk]]) 10:41, 9 February 2007 (CST)


== Titular article, miscelleny ==


I would like to propose replacing the current content of the [[Computer]] article with a copy of Wikipedia's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer corresponding article].  Myself and another editor rewrote the Wikipedia article a while back and, while it is far from perfect, I honestly think it is an improvement over the old Wikipedia revision upon which the current Citizendium article is based.  There are a some things about it that will probably need changing to conform to this wiki's stylistic preferences, but on the whole I think it offers improved organization and topical coverage.
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I was also wondering why the Citizendium article title uses the plural form of the word.  The singular form seems like it would be the preferred encyclopedic style.  In addition, would there be any objection to importing Wikipedia's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_processing_unit CPU] article, either on grounds of topical relevance or accuracy?  I wrote the article myself, and it was a featured article on Wikipedia until recently when it was realized that it doesn't have sufficient citations to keep featured status.
My apologies if this isn't the correct place to post this information, I'm still getting acquainted. -- [[User:Matt Britt|Matt Britt]]


:I think the term computers got inherited and copied onto the workgroup, to have the same word all over everything related to computers.
== Forgot talk was here -- additions to article page ==
To change it would be a nuisance since every link used throughout CZ needs be changed manually.
To use the WP article, by all means feel free to. Befoere however, move the computers home page to something like computers_old page.
[[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]] | [[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]] 19:31, 15 February 2007 (CST)


::I would, but the page is move-protected. Is there any particular reason I shouldn't just replace the page text? -- [[User:Matt Britt|Matt Britt]]
I put some draft writing guides and style guides there, completely blanking that there might be a talk page. Shall I move them here, or can we discuss them? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 01:51, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


== New look of workgroup page ==
:Howard, I would like to move the draft writing and style guides, either to this page or into a page of their own (possibly linked with a brief disclaimer on the main page).  My personal judgement is to keep the main page quite simple, and give writers freedom until someone objects.  New people already have a lot of policy regulations to plow through; us providing a computer-specific one could just be the straw that broke the camel's back.  Let's make it drop-dead simple for someone to glance at the page and start authoring.  If you don't object, I'll move it over here, for now.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 13:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


Since the old workgroup page look a little bit shabby I copied over content from other groups and added a few heading we might want to use to further organize us. It would be nice if we could remove the "old content of page" list of articles soon as that has no advantage over the automatic listing of Computers WG articles available. So please move any link you want to keep from there to e.g. "subtopics" or "most-wanted articles" soon.
::No problem; as I mentioned, I forgot this page was here but then had several choices of where to move them. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 14:00, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


--[[User:Markus Baumeister|Markus Baumeister]] 18:46, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
:::Here is the link the saved writing-guide: [[CZ_Talk:Computers_Workgroup/Writing_Guide]]  [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 00:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::::I would like to make the point that the guide is not intended as policy, but as ways I have found useful to write. No one has to use it, but, at the same time, don't expect everyone automatically to develop their own style. This has been productive for me; it may be productive for others. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 00:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Help plan Computers Week! ==
'''[[CZ:Computers_Workgroup/Workgroup_Week|Go here and sign up!]]'''
 
:I have moved this here from the main page.  Not sure it's even current, but it's been there a while and has had no takers.  Let's leave it off the main page, for now, in hopes of making it simple for people to feel welcome and start authoring.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 00:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 
==Simplified, stripped down main page==
Right now, there is a great need for people to begin authoring in Computers.  To that end, I have stripped down the main page so it's simple and clear how to begin, and hopefully has a welcoming tone.  Let's try to keep it simple for now.  Newbies have a LOT of policy to plow through, so let's don't raise any barriers in terms of learning curve.  People, join us!  We need authors![[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 01:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== DOD IA Policy Chart??? ==
 
There have been changes of this page to reflect something called "DOD IA Policy Chart". This seemed not to be appropriate to me. Thus I undid the change. If it was an intended change please explain it here. -- [[User:Alexander Wiebel|Alexander Wiebel]] 08:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 
== [[Mainframe]] ==
 
Hi there Computers Editors. The [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Mainframe&action=history original contributors intention] was to make a definition for mainframe but what they got was an article. A look at another online encyclopedias [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer version of the same article] shows that a full article is possible, so I do not want to make it just a definition.
 
I plan to add the subpages, metadata and definition, which gives other contributors more ways to contribute to the article, like adding related articles or external links, catalogs or just editing the main article. Of course it would be great if someone wrote the whole thing up in one go, but we are more likely to get to a complete article by lots of people making small edits over time, and having the article properly categorised and conforming to the subpages system is a good idea.
 
Before I do any of that though I'd appreciate some advice - that other encyclopedia I mentioned has a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe disambiguation page] that lists 8 uses for the word mainframe, although perhaps only three that would be useful to us. Would this article be better titled Mainframe, computing or something like this? [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 14:43, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:10, 4 June 2022

This is the talk page for CZ:Computers_Workgroup

I don't know why but in my browser, I cannot get back to the main page from here, so I am providing the link explicitly right above here.Pat Palmer 00:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Discussion Archives
Archive 1, 8-28-07 (stuff taken off main workgroup page): Talk:Computers_Workgroup/Archive1
Archive 2, 2-15-09: (old stuff from workgroup talk page) Talk:Computers_Workgroup/Archive2



Forgot talk was here -- additions to article page

I put some draft writing guides and style guides there, completely blanking that there might be a talk page. Shall I move them here, or can we discuss them? Howard C. Berkowitz 01:51, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Howard, I would like to move the draft writing and style guides, either to this page or into a page of their own (possibly linked with a brief disclaimer on the main page). My personal judgement is to keep the main page quite simple, and give writers freedom until someone objects. New people already have a lot of policy regulations to plow through; us providing a computer-specific one could just be the straw that broke the camel's back. Let's make it drop-dead simple for someone to glance at the page and start authoring. If you don't object, I'll move it over here, for now.Pat Palmer 13:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
No problem; as I mentioned, I forgot this page was here but then had several choices of where to move them. Howard C. Berkowitz 14:00, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Here is the link the saved writing-guide: CZ_Talk:Computers_Workgroup/Writing_Guide Pat Palmer 00:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I would like to make the point that the guide is not intended as policy, but as ways I have found useful to write. No one has to use it, but, at the same time, don't expect everyone automatically to develop their own style. This has been productive for me; it may be productive for others. Howard C. Berkowitz 00:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Help plan Computers Week!

Go here and sign up!

I have moved this here from the main page. Not sure it's even current, but it's been there a while and has had no takers. Let's leave it off the main page, for now, in hopes of making it simple for people to feel welcome and start authoring.Pat Palmer 00:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Simplified, stripped down main page

Right now, there is a great need for people to begin authoring in Computers. To that end, I have stripped down the main page so it's simple and clear how to begin, and hopefully has a welcoming tone. Let's try to keep it simple for now. Newbies have a LOT of policy to plow through, so let's don't raise any barriers in terms of learning curve. People, join us! We need authors!Pat Palmer 01:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

DOD IA Policy Chart???

There have been changes of this page to reflect something called "DOD IA Policy Chart". This seemed not to be appropriate to me. Thus I undid the change. If it was an intended change please explain it here. -- Alexander Wiebel 08:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Mainframe

Hi there Computers Editors. The original contributors intention was to make a definition for mainframe but what they got was an article. A look at another online encyclopedias version of the same article shows that a full article is possible, so I do not want to make it just a definition.

I plan to add the subpages, metadata and definition, which gives other contributors more ways to contribute to the article, like adding related articles or external links, catalogs or just editing the main article. Of course it would be great if someone wrote the whole thing up in one go, but we are more likely to get to a complete article by lots of people making small edits over time, and having the article properly categorised and conforming to the subpages system is a good idea.

Before I do any of that though I'd appreciate some advice - that other encyclopedia I mentioned has a disambiguation page that lists 8 uses for the word mainframe, although perhaps only three that would be useful to us. Would this article be better titled Mainframe, computing or something like this? David Finn 14:43, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

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