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The deletion log entry said ''{{'}}delete – starts with "believed to be" and is potentially contentious material based on "claims"{{'}}''  As above I question whether that is sufficient to justify deletion, rather than some copy-editing.  [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 15:07, 14 February 2024 (CST)
The deletion log entry said ''{{'}}delete – starts with "believed to be" and is potentially contentious material based on "claims"{{'}}''  As above I question whether that is sufficient to justify deletion, rather than some copy-editing.  [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 15:07, 14 February 2024 (CST)
:Oh, he was "highly significant", was he? At least, he was "believed to be" so. I think we are meant to write articles that are factual and, at need, verifiable. It would be extremely difficult, I think, to convert speculation into fact by merely doing some copyediting.
:My friend who was at Bagram has been looking through CZ content and is amazed that we don't have an article on [[Quentin Tarantino]]. He's right. Of course we should have an article on the greatest cinematic genius since [[Sergio Leone]]. What!? We don't have an article on Sergio? Another of my contacts tells me we must start an article about [[Patrick Mahomes]]. And I have a mate in [[Liverpool]] who has been on to me for weeks about [[Kenny Dalglish]]. Those four guys, of course, really are highly significant and so are thousands more. I'm glad Liverpool is blue.
:But we do have articles about all sorts of obscure, shadowy figures from the netherworld of terrorism and alleged torture, don't we? Even if most of what we "know" about such people is what is "believed to be" true. Even if world opinion on such people is that no one has ever heard of them (except for Bin Liner, of course) and they are best forgotten as soon as they become yesterday's news.
:Why don't you make yourself useful and make starts on Quentin and ''[[Pulp Fiction]]'' instead of banging on about terrorists all the time? Don't worry, when you spell Quentin's name wrong, I'll correct it for you. [[User:John Leach|John]] ([[User talk:John Leach|talk]]) 16:36, 14 February 2024 (CST)

Revision as of 17:36, 14 February 2024

Ayman al-Zawahiri

A highly significant figure

Ayman al-Zawahiri was a highly significant figure. If there are problems with the old article about him, the problematic passages should be rewritten. The article also needs to be updated. I (1) added that he took over al Qaeda after Osama bin Laden's death; (2) that he too was KIA.

Yes, it needs further expanding. So do a lot of articles.

The deletion log entry said 'delete – starts with "believed to be" and is potentially contentious material based on "claims"' As above I question whether that is sufficient to justify deletion, rather than some copy-editing. George Swan (talk) 15:07, 14 February 2024 (CST)

Oh, he was "highly significant", was he? At least, he was "believed to be" so. I think we are meant to write articles that are factual and, at need, verifiable. It would be extremely difficult, I think, to convert speculation into fact by merely doing some copyediting.
My friend who was at Bagram has been looking through CZ content and is amazed that we don't have an article on Quentin Tarantino. He's right. Of course we should have an article on the greatest cinematic genius since Sergio Leone. What!? We don't have an article on Sergio? Another of my contacts tells me we must start an article about Patrick Mahomes. And I have a mate in Liverpool who has been on to me for weeks about Kenny Dalglish. Those four guys, of course, really are highly significant and so are thousands more. I'm glad Liverpool is blue.
But we do have articles about all sorts of obscure, shadowy figures from the netherworld of terrorism and alleged torture, don't we? Even if most of what we "know" about such people is what is "believed to be" true. Even if world opinion on such people is that no one has ever heard of them (except for Bin Liner, of course) and they are best forgotten as soon as they become yesterday's news.
Why don't you make yourself useful and make starts on Quentin and Pulp Fiction instead of banging on about terrorists all the time? Don't worry, when you spell Quentin's name wrong, I'll correct it for you. John (talk) 16:36, 14 February 2024 (CST)