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:True.  But there was also a long-standing tradition of virulent anti-Semitism in Germany that has to be taken into account also. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 23:19, 5 June 2007 (CDT)
:True.  But there was also a long-standing tradition of virulent anti-Semitism in Germany that has to be taken into account also. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 23:19, 5 June 2007 (CDT)
::In 1939 Hitler formed an alliance with Stalin, but never wavered in his hatred of the Jews--which had little to do with Communism says Kershaw. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 23:19, 5 June 2007 (CDT)
::In 1939 Hitler formed an alliance with Stalin, but never wavered in his hatred of the Jews--which had little to do with Communism says Kershaw. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 23:19, 5 June 2007 (CDT)
==Recent edits==
I have reverted Eric Pokorny's edit. The foundation of Hitler's world view and of Nazi ideology was anti-Semitism. Hitler regarded communism as a creation of the Jews, not vice versa. I have also reverted Hayford Peirce's edit. The killing of homosexuals etc was not part of the Holocaust, properly defined. The two things should not be confused. I have also moved the article back to its original title. The party's name was the National-Socialist German Workers Party, not the "Nazi Party" which is (a) slang and (b) confusing since there have been and still are many Nazi parties. We don't title our article on the Republican Party [[The GOP]], or on the British Conservatives [[The Tory Party]]. It is untrue that "most books" call the NSDAP the Nazi party. Serious works on Third Reich history call it by its correct name. But even if it was true, a work of reference is expected to be accurate. [[User:Adam Carr|Adam Carr]] 10:06, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

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name change

Good article but it should be renamed Nazi Party -- any objections? Richard Jensen 08:02, 26 April 2007 (CDT)

The "National-Socialist German Workers Party" is of course not the German name of the party. Users will not find it --it is rarely used in any reference book, and so we need "Nazi Party". Specifically the official name was "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" (no hyphen), which Germans usually called NSDAP. Richard Jensen 17:17, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

Sentence change

I changed this sentence:

"The anti-Semitic ideology of the Nazi Party led the regime into the Nazi Holocaust, in which six million Jews were killed"

This says the Nazis were against Jews just because they were Jews. The Nazis were against Jews because they believed they promoted communism. In Nazi publications and speechs they always equated Jews with Bolshevism. You can get translated info here:

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ww2era.htm#Antisem

I know this is a touchy subject but I believe we should objectively cover this issue or else nobody will learn anything.

Eric Pokorny 23:01, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

True. But there was also a long-standing tradition of virulent anti-Semitism in Germany that has to be taken into account also. Hayford Peirce 23:19, 5 June 2007 (CDT)
In 1939 Hitler formed an alliance with Stalin, but never wavered in his hatred of the Jews--which had little to do with Communism says Kershaw. Richard Jensen 23:19, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

Recent edits

I have reverted Eric Pokorny's edit. The foundation of Hitler's world view and of Nazi ideology was anti-Semitism. Hitler regarded communism as a creation of the Jews, not vice versa. I have also reverted Hayford Peirce's edit. The killing of homosexuals etc was not part of the Holocaust, properly defined. The two things should not be confused. I have also moved the article back to its original title. The party's name was the National-Socialist German Workers Party, not the "Nazi Party" which is (a) slang and (b) confusing since there have been and still are many Nazi parties. We don't title our article on the Republican Party The GOP, or on the British Conservatives The Tory Party. It is untrue that "most books" call the NSDAP the Nazi party. Serious works on Third Reich history call it by its correct name. But even if it was true, a work of reference is expected to be accurate. Adam Carr 10:06, 6 June 2007 (CDT)