Talk:Battle of New Orleans

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Is there some reason why we don't call this Battle of New Orleans? The motivation appears to be that people would search through alphabetical listings for this article by "New Orleans," instead of "battle." But surely they wouldn't; I know I wouldn't. --Larry Sanger 14:49, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

I will add the redirect. Of course search engines can handle it either way--I just checked (I got the same results with new orleans battle pakenham as with battle of new orleans pakenham. So there is no advantage to users in changing. There is a big advantage to editors like myself to keep the battle topics together rather than scattered. (Look at what we did with "Joan of Arc" for example). I just today added "Pequot War" which seems the only reasonable title, and am working through Napoleon's biography (Napoleon with redirects from other possibilities.. Richard Jensen 15:18, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

"There is a big advantage to editors like myself to keep the battle topics together rather than scattered." Then why not call it Battle of New Orleans, along with Battle of the Bulge and Battle of Gettysburg? That way the battle topics are kept together rather than scattered. Surely you aren't going to recommend Gettysburg, Battle?

Anyway, I regard your titles as tentative; so, we might change them so that they are consistent with standard practice, but I want to put this question to the Editorial Council. --Larry Sanger 16:04, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

Yes indeed, Gettysburg, Battle. We will have a dozen articles on Gettysburg (I've written on that topic), and there is only one way to keep them together. Otherwise the search engine will mix up the articles with many others that mention Gettysburg. The goal here is designing a system and that means being able to keep an overall view of what progress has been made and what needs to be done. Here is my scheme: (whether these are parts of one article or separate articles is to be decided by how many authros we have):

• Gettysburg, Battle, Artillery
• Gettysburg, Battle, Cavalry actions
• Gettysburg, Battle, Cemetery Hill
• Gettysburg, Battle, Civilians
• Gettysburg, Battle, Confederate Units
• Gettysburg, Battle, Day One
• Gettysburg, Battle, Day Two
• Gettysburg, Battle, Day Three
• Gettysburg, Battle, Historiography
• Gettysburg, Battle, Lee
• Gettysburg, Battle, Lee's retreat
• Gettysburg, Battle, Little Round Top
• Gettysburg, Battle, Longstreet
• Gettysburg, Battle, Lincoln
• Gettysburg, Battle, Memories and images
• Gettysburg, Battle, Meade
• Gettysburg, Battle, News reports
• Gettysburg, Battle, Seminary Ridge
• Gettysburg, Battle, Strategy
• Gettysburg, Battle, Union Units
• Gettysburg, city
• Gettysburg, Monuments
• Gettysburg Address
• Gettysburg Cemetery
• Gettysburg College
• Gettysburg Seminary

If this looks like a library catalog--yes, the librarians long ago figured out how to handle this material and they have a huge literature and guidebooks and graduate school courses. We can tap as we work on our new wheel design . Richard Jensen 16:29, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

What about the Johnny Horton mega-hit?

One of these days I'll do a short article called "The Battle of New Orleans". What will you do about that?Hayford Peirce 10:52, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

we will have a disambig page so people will not think the 1815 episode was an early musical. Richard Jensen 12:21, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

Hehe. Well, we have "South Pacific" -- why not "South North America"? Hayford Peirce 12:54, 22 June 2007 (CDT)