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I've talked with Dr. Jenkins about [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Korea_and_Japan&diff=100198952&oldid=100198828 this edit] that he made. While some parts of the edit are fine, some other parts are disagreeable for one reason or another.
I've talked with Dr. Jenkins about [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Korea_and_Japan&diff=100198952&oldid=100198828 this edit] that he made. While some parts of the edit are fine, some other parts are disagreeable for one reason or another.


1) "waters; Korea was devastated." this shouldn't be much of a problem, we just need to elaborate on this b/c it sounds too abrupt.
1) "waters; Korea was devastated." this shouldn't be much of a problem, we just need to elaborate on this b/c it sounds too abrupt. Also, it makes it sound as if the Korean military was defeated all the way - when there were few major victories on land & complete dominance at sea.


2) "The Japanese leader Shogun [[Toyotomi Hideyoshi]]" I had originally worded it as "Japanese leader" and then gave the link to "Shogun". I think that "leader shogun" is not proper, it sounds too awkward. If we were to refer to Hideyoshi as a Shogun, then we'd sound too ambiguous/erudite to people who have absolutely no idea about Japanese history. I think that "Japanese leader" or something equivalent is good enough.
2) "The Japanese leader Shogun [[Toyotomi Hideyoshi]]" I had originally worded it as "Japanese leader" and then gave the link to "Shogun". I think that "leader shogun" is not proper, it sounds too awkward. If we were to refer to Hideyoshi as a Shogun, then we'd sound too ambiguous/erudite to people who have absolutely no idea about Japanese history. I think that "Japanese leader" or something equivalent is good enough.

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Intro

I've talked with Dr. Jenkins about this edit that he made. While some parts of the edit are fine, some other parts are disagreeable for one reason or another.

1) "waters; Korea was devastated." this shouldn't be much of a problem, we just need to elaborate on this b/c it sounds too abrupt. Also, it makes it sound as if the Korean military was defeated all the way - when there were few major victories on land & complete dominance at sea.

2) "The Japanese leader Shogun Toyotomi Hideyoshi" I had originally worded it as "Japanese leader" and then gave the link to "Shogun". I think that "leader shogun" is not proper, it sounds too awkward. If we were to refer to Hideyoshi as a Shogun, then we'd sound too ambiguous/erudite to people who have absolutely no idea about Japanese history. I think that "Japanese leader" or something equivalent is good enough.

3) "; he fought Korea when it denied him passage." Stephen Turnbull in his Samurai Invasion & Kenneth M. Swope in his "Deceit, Disguise, and Dependence: China, Japan, and the Future of the Tributary System, 1592-1596" indicate otherwise - that So Yoshitoshi, the lord of Tsushima, in charge of communicating with Korea, lied to Hideyoshi that Korea was part of Tsushima & since Tsushima had submitted to Hideyoshi, that Korea would be part of Japan (all because he wanted peace between Korea & Japan so that his So family would keep their monopoly on the "lucrative" trade b/w the 2 countries). So it's more than just "denying Japan the passage"... Also, Hideyoshi did not fight in Korea - I think that the wording is too broad, like "Hideyoshi was leading the troops, & he was denied passage to Korea"

I see where Dr. Jenkins want to go - the effect on the Korean peninsula, & the whole storyline about how the war began could be summarized in the intro & make the intro more comprehensive. But we need to word them better so that they don't cause any misunderstanding. I'm not sure how to do that. (Chunbum Park 14:01, 14 November 2007 (CST))