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==Maybe a subpage?==
OK, with a new approval for Life soon, I've imported the old version here and started to simplify. Just done the obvious things for now as a start.[[User:Gareth Leng|Gareth Leng]] 05:15, 7 March 2008 (CST)
OK, with a new approval for Life soon, I've imported the old version here and started to simplify. Just done the obvious things for now as a start.[[User:Gareth Leng|Gareth Leng]] 05:15, 7 March 2008 (CST)
:This is an interesting and no doubt very helpful project (not easy for the rest of us to grapple with these concepts). But might it not be better as a subpage of [[Life]]? If someone types 'Life' into CZ they'll only get the grown-up version. :) Maybe you can also do an even simpler one for creationists? [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 05:30, 7 March 2008 (CST)
:This is an interesting and no doubt very helpful project (not easy for the rest of us to grapple with these concepts). But might it not be better as a subpage of [[Life]]? If someone types 'Life' into CZ they'll only get the grown-up version. :) Maybe you can also do an even simpler one for creationists? [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 05:30, 7 March 2008 (CST)


Gareth i was thinking exactly the [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,952.msg14512.html#msg14512 same thing]. This article is a tour deforce and a more succint version would be desirable.  I too was thinking along the lines of the subpage [[Life/Student Level]].  [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 06:49, 7 March 2008 (CST)
Gareth i was thinking exactly the [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,952.msg14512.html#msg14512 same thing]. This article is a tour deforce and a more succint version would be desirable.  I too was thinking along the lines of the subpage [[Life/Student Level]].  [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 06:49, 7 March 2008 (CST)
:: I too was kind of confused to see this as a new page. We'd had some discussion on the forum (e.g. [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,952.html here]) about a very closely related topic (material for experts), and the consensus seemed to be that a sub-page to hold it was the way to go there. I would assume the same line of reasoning would hold for student-level material.
:: The other possibility (sort of alluded to in that thread) is to say that the 'student-level' material belongs on the main page - that that page shouldn't have content so abstruse that students can't handle it - and that any such material belongs on the 'expert' subpage. [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 10:26, 7 March 2008 (CST)


:This would also represent an opportunity to test the scenario where the article itself is approved but some of the subpages are still embryonic.  I'm not sure exactly how to indicate that such pages are not approved or are works in progress. Unless that is just a given and goes with the territory? [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 06:52, 7 March 2008 (CST)
:This would also represent an opportunity to test the scenario where the article itself is approved but some of the subpages are still embryonic.  I'm not sure exactly how to indicate that such pages are not approved or are works in progress. Unless that is just a given and goes with the territory? [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 06:52, 7 March 2008 (CST)
:: I'd always assumed that subpages (like Biblio, etc) would be approved as part of the whole article. Why would they not be? They are part of the article's content? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 10:26, 7 March 2008 (CST)

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Maybe a subpage?

OK, with a new approval for Life soon, I've imported the old version here and started to simplify. Just done the obvious things for now as a start.Gareth Leng 05:15, 7 March 2008 (CST)

This is an interesting and no doubt very helpful project (not easy for the rest of us to grapple with these concepts). But might it not be better as a subpage of Life? If someone types 'Life' into CZ they'll only get the grown-up version. :) Maybe you can also do an even simpler one for creationists? John Stephenson 05:30, 7 March 2008 (CST)

Gareth i was thinking exactly the same thing. This article is a tour deforce and a more succint version would be desirable. I too was thinking along the lines of the subpage Life/Student Level. Chris Day (talk) 06:49, 7 March 2008 (CST)

I too was kind of confused to see this as a new page. We'd had some discussion on the forum (e.g. here) about a very closely related topic (material for experts), and the consensus seemed to be that a sub-page to hold it was the way to go there. I would assume the same line of reasoning would hold for student-level material.
The other possibility (sort of alluded to in that thread) is to say that the 'student-level' material belongs on the main page - that that page shouldn't have content so abstruse that students can't handle it - and that any such material belongs on the 'expert' subpage. J. Noel Chiappa 10:26, 7 March 2008 (CST)
This would also represent an opportunity to test the scenario where the article itself is approved but some of the subpages are still embryonic. I'm not sure exactly how to indicate that such pages are not approved or are works in progress. Unless that is just a given and goes with the territory? Chris Day (talk) 06:52, 7 March 2008 (CST)
I'd always assumed that subpages (like Biblio, etc) would be approved as part of the whole article. Why would they not be? They are part of the article's content? J. Noel Chiappa 10:26, 7 March 2008 (CST)