CZ Talk:Lemma article

I added this page to encourage people to start lemma articles. Lemma articles seem like a much less cluttery way of putting up definitional stubs. –Tom Morris 07:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Forum discussion

There is an extensive discussion of lemma articles in the forum. --Peter Schmitt 00:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm confused

This is what confuses me:

---> # Create a definition subpage with a definition of the subject. I'm not sure what a "definition subpage" is or how to create it. Does this mean creating a definition? I'm baffled. I want to create a slew of lemma articles and, at present, my sense is to: create an article (with the subpages template at the top), and that's it. No metadata, no related articles subpages, etc. Is what I'm creating a lemma? No definition subpage. Will I be doing it right? That's my di-lemma. :) -- --Thomas Wright Sulcer 14:07, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Update: I think I get it now. The idea is to create the main page with ONLY the "subpages" template at the

\top. After that's created, then click on the "definitions" icon in red, to write a definition subpage. OK, I think I understand it, but this isn't what I want to do. My thinking is that subpages confuse the Google crawlers; what I want to do is create simple articles (many, a "thicket") on a variety of inter-related subjects to see if it boosts CZ traffic. Definition-subpage articles won't do.--Thomas Wright Sulcer 14:12, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

While I'm not convinced subpages confuse the crawlers, remember that clicking the red "r" on a lemma display gives you a Related Articles page -- as long as the crawlers find Related Articles, what's the problem? The thickets should be rooted in Related Articles pages anyway. Howard C. Berkowitz 14:38, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

My hunch (unproven) is that all types of subpages -- "related articles" "definitions" "bibliography" etc confuse the crawlers, since there are two steps instead of one when linking from article to article. The way Wikipedia does it is this: article page (with linking term RIGHT on the page) ---> next article page. It's direct. What CZ does is this: article page --> subpage:related article ---> next article page. It adds a step. Given Wikipedia's terrific web presence, I'm thinking that if we do anything different (particularly when CZ web presence is lackluster) that we better have a good reason why it makes sense. On my PageRank studies, I routinely found "Related articles" pages coming to the forefront of a google search -- that is a "Related article" beat out the actual article on a SERP page. If the CZ way is to keep using the subpages, I can go along with that, but I want more direct links to the article page itself in the form of "see also" or "bibliography" or "further information" as much as possible. I'm not saying that I won't do the definition or related articles subpages; but I want both, if possible, to improve web presence. If I do this, will anybody object.--Thomas Wright Sulcer 16:31, 31 March 2010 (UTC)