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And another question: the [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Clebsch-Gordan_coefficients&action=history edit history] shows that the from-wp flag suddenly disappears. Was this done on purpose? -- [[User:Jitse Niesen|Jitse Niesen]] 07:11, 30 July 2008 (CDT)
And another question: the [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Clebsch-Gordan_coefficients&action=history edit history] shows that the from-wp flag suddenly disappears. Was this done on purpose? -- [[User:Jitse Niesen|Jitse Niesen]] 07:11, 30 July 2008 (CDT)
:You are right both notations  are in this article for the same ket <math>|(j_1j_2)JM\rangle \equiv |JM\rangle</math>. But very often only ''J'' and ''M'' are important and the small ''j'''s aren't. Also in a different context the ket <math>|JM\rangle</math> may have another origin than the coupling of two small ''j''s (e.g., only one ''j'' or more than two ''j''s).
:The CG coefficients are  sometimes written as
::<math>
\langle j_1 m_1;j_2m_2| (j_1j_2) JM \rangle
</math>
:but this notation is redundant in that the same two small ''j''s  are given twice in one symbol.
:Some authors use indeed the term "Wigner coefficients", which historically is a much better name. But the majority of authors (especially the mathematically oriented authors) use Clebsch-Gordan for all sorts of groups, not just SO(3) and SU(2).
:About the Wiki flag: is it necessary to activate it for any edit? I thought that only the first time would be sufficient, because from the history of the article is then clear that it comes from WP.
:I'm melting away in my study right now, so I won't make any changes to this or any other article until the weather  cools down.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 08:27, 30 July 2008 (CDT)

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From Wikipedia, I changed the lead, added equation for explicit expression (plus discussion) and one special case.--Paul Wormer 03:45, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

Confusement

In the original WP text the i in j i could stand for x, y, or z, or for "particle number" 1 or 2. In some situations this was confusing, so I introduced x, y and z.--Paul Wormer 07:32, 7 October 2007 (CDT)

Notation of eigenstates

Is there a difference between the states and ? I guess not, because the latter notation appears in the orthogonality relation

without any comment. I find it rather confusing that both notations appear in the definition

for the CG coeffs. -- Jitse Niesen 06:37, 30 July 2008 (CDT)

Incidentally, the book we used when learning quantum mechanics (Quantum Physics by Stephen Gasiorowicz) calls them Wigner coefficients; is it just a strange book or is that name really used or are Wigner coefficients something subtly different? -- Jitse Niesen 06:47, 30 July 2008 (CDT)

And another question: the edit history shows that the from-wp flag suddenly disappears. Was this done on purpose? -- Jitse Niesen 07:11, 30 July 2008 (CDT)

You are right both notations are in this article for the same ket . But very often only J and M are important and the small j's aren't. Also in a different context the ket may have another origin than the coupling of two small js (e.g., only one j or more than two js).
The CG coefficients are sometimes written as
but this notation is redundant in that the same two small js are given twice in one symbol.
Some authors use indeed the term "Wigner coefficients", which historically is a much better name. But the majority of authors (especially the mathematically oriented authors) use Clebsch-Gordan for all sorts of groups, not just SO(3) and SU(2).
About the Wiki flag: is it necessary to activate it for any edit? I thought that only the first time would be sufficient, because from the history of the article is then clear that it comes from WP.
I'm melting away in my study right now, so I won't make any changes to this or any other article until the weather cools down.--Paul Wormer 08:27, 30 July 2008 (CDT)