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'''''NOTE:'''As of the time of this posting, and as policy henceforth, the content of the article [[Galileo Galilei]] is submitted and licensed to Citizendium under its standard terms, by the author or authors. It is not under license (such as GFDL) from Wikipedia or other sources. For further information see under [[#New start|New start]].''
'''''NOTE:'''As of the time of this posting, and as a proposed policy henceforth, the content of the article [[Galileo Galilei]] is submitted and licensed to Citizendium under its standard terms, by the author or authors. It is not under license (such as GFDL) from Wikipedia or other sources. For further information see under [[#New start|New start]].''
[[User:Daniel Drake|Daniel Drake]] 13:34, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
[[User:Daniel Drake|Daniel Drake]] 13:34, 5 April 2007 (CDT)


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<s>Imported from Wikipedia</s> for a preliminary version, which will require a good deal of work.
<s>Imported from Wikipedia</s> for a preliminary version, which will require a good deal of work.


'''Requesting a moratorium on changes''' while I do initial Citizendium import fixups and make some of the most badly needed changes to the text.
'''<s>Requesting a moratorium on changes</s>''' while I do initial Citizendium import fixups and make some of the most badly needed changes to the text.


The version selected is the one that was current at the end of June, 2004[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Galileo_Galilei&oldid=4384419], the product of some 6+ months of work after it was given Featured Article status. Since that time many improvements have been made in the Wikipedia text, but on balance it has become more flabby and poorly organized, and more argumentative (in a generally non-scholarly way), rather than less. Hence this semi-arbitrary choice of a starting point. [[User:Daniel Drake|Daniel Drake]] 11:27, 1 April 2007 (CDT)
The version selected is the one that was current at the end of June, 2004[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Galileo_Galilei&oldid=4384419], the product of some 6+ months of work after it was given Featured Article status. Since that time many improvements have been made in the Wikipedia text, but on balance it has become more flabby and poorly organized, and more argumentative (in a generally non-scholarly way), rather than less. Hence this semi-arbitrary choice of a starting point. [[User:Daniel Drake|Daniel Drake]] 11:27, 1 April 2007 (CDT)
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''Anyone submitting material from Wikipedia (or other sources) is urged to use the History features to verify that only the author's own submissions are used here.'' It would also be useful to note in the Discussion page any material that duplicates that on another site. [[User:Daniel Drake|Daniel Drake]] 13:34, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
''Anyone submitting material from Wikipedia (or other sources) is urged to use the History features to verify that only the author's own submissions are used here.'' It would also be useful to note in the Discussion page any material that duplicates that on another site. [[User:Daniel Drake|Daniel Drake]] 13:34, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
I've tried to work up the introduction along the lines mentioned above: speak of the stuff that will be of interest to a non-specialist who wanders in here, and put little else in. What can we do to improve it without making it top-heavy with detail? (Obviously the "moratorium" I requested at first is a dead issue for the sections that now have some contents.) --[[User:Daniel Drake|Daniel Drake]] 02:45, 6 April 2007 (CDT)

Revision as of 02:45, 6 April 2007


Article Checklist for "Galileo Galilei"
Workgroup category or categories Astronomy Workgroup [Categories OK]
Article status Developing article: beyond a stub, but incomplete
Underlinked article? Yes
Basic cleanup done? Yes
Checklist last edited by Daniel Drake 13:07, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

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NOTE:As of the time of this posting, and as a proposed policy henceforth, the content of the article Galileo Galilei is submitted and licensed to Citizendium under its standard terms, by the author or authors. It is not under license (such as GFDL) from Wikipedia or other sources. For further information see under New start. Daniel Drake 13:34, 5 April 2007 (CDT)


Imported from Wikipedia for a preliminary version, which will require a good deal of work.

Requesting a moratorium on changes while I do initial Citizendium import fixups and make some of the most badly needed changes to the text.

The version selected is the one that was current at the end of June, 2004[1], the product of some 6+ months of work after it was given Featured Article status. Since that time many improvements have been made in the Wikipedia text, but on balance it has become more flabby and poorly organized, and more argumentative (in a generally non-scholarly way), rather than less. Hence this semi-arbitrary choice of a starting point. Daniel Drake 11:27, 1 April 2007 (CDT)


[Omitting irrelevant rant against the software.]

Added the Wikipedia template to the end of text. Now, do I go on checking the Wikipedia-cotent box (which seems to be on by default) with every submission of new content? Have inquired on a more relevant talk page now. Daniel Drake 11:27, 1 April 2007 (CDT)


Modified the intro, on the theory that Galileo's claims to fame are strong enough without asking for priority wars over who was the real father of this or that, or whether he was The First to do real experimentation, or one of the first, or one Western Johnny-come-lately in exerimentation, etc. Those disputes belong elsewhere.

However, it really ought to have nods to a few things that a new reader will actually be interested in: heliocentrism, telescopes, fights with the Inquisition, and real, quantitative physics. Let's work these in, as briefly and neutrally as possible. Daniel Drake 00:33, 2 April 2007 (CDT)


New start

I have deleted all Wikipedia material, and then created a stub, with a minimal intro and section headings. A large part of what that I'll submit in the near future will be material previously submitted to Wikipedia, in the approximate period from July 2003 to January 2006; this is licensed to Citizendium under my own rights (non-exclusive in this case) to my work. Section headings and organization, in case there are any worries about look and feel, are also my own product.

Anyone submitting material from Wikipedia (or other sources) is urged to use the History features to verify that only the author's own submissions are used here. It would also be useful to note in the Discussion page any material that duplicates that on another site. Daniel Drake 13:34, 5 April 2007 (CDT)


I've tried to work up the introduction along the lines mentioned above: speak of the stuff that will be of interest to a non-specialist who wanders in here, and put little else in. What can we do to improve it without making it top-heavy with detail? (Obviously the "moratorium" I requested at first is a dead issue for the sections that now have some contents.) --Daniel Drake 02:45, 6 April 2007 (CDT)