Talk:Jacques Derrida

"on this space - the reference - from sign to sign." This statement IMHO is semantically or meaningless or relies un explained allusions. As the topic is famously obscure, surely we can do better? David Tribe 14:49, 14 February 2007 (CST)

I've clarified that line some. I wish I had more time to write. I really just wanted to get an article for Derrida started. The concept of Differánce is intense, to say the least. With out Writing and Difference in front of me when I wrote these very very brief paragraphs, I am hesitant to put words into Derrida's mouth. - John Dayton

It might be easier to write about Derrida without actually consulting him.  ;-) Seriously, you're going to have to be a hell of a lot clearer than Derrida is if you want to make a readable encyclopedia article about him. --Larry Sanger 13:00, 15 February 2007 (CST)

I've done what I can for today. There are people that get paid to understand Derrida and could do this more justice. But, I figure something is better than nothing for now. Please post any other comments and I'll do what I can. I am making it a point not to copy from wikipedia. --John Dayton 13:33, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Again, what people are going to be coming to CZ for is to read what people mean when they say such completely cryptic things as: "Differánce relies on the space, the difference, between every sign. This space exists in the referral between signs." What does that mean? There are spaces between words, white space y'know, and that's the only idea that this language begins to suggest to my commonsense brain. --Larry Sanger 14:01, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Well, that is right in a way I think. That "white" space between words give each word its distinction from the one beside it. Without that whitespace these words would be meaningless. I'm not sure if I can do any better than what is there without creating example after example. In that case, reading his books might be more appropriate. --John Dayton 14:16, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Well, John, instead of an encyclopedia article, perhaps we should say, "We cannot sum up Derrida. Reading his books is more appropriate."  :-) --Larry Sanger 14:48, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Well, maybe. Thanks for the comments. I understand what your saying but I don't think I have the time to condense such an intense topic. Delete the article if you want. I do appreciate the comments, though. --John Dayton 07:45, 16 February 2007 (CST)

Current state of the article

As it stands the article is about deconstructionism, not about Derrida at all. I've added bare biographical details to the lead, but that's about all I can do; my disdain for the man (to put it mildly) is a matter of public record, and that ill-suits me to write anything about him. Someone, though, needs to turn this into an article about him. The stuff on deconstructionism might stay, though it's surely more suitable to an article on deconstructionism. (I agree wholeheartedly with Larry on the content, mind you.) --Peter J. King  Talk  10:15, 3 March 2007 (CST)