User talk:Neil Brick

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EAS definition

Hi Neil, and welcome. I made a slight change to your definition as they are designed to be used in the context of the {{R}} template on the Related Articles subpages. FYI, so you can see the context, if I write {{R|Extreme Abuse Survey}} it will display as follows:

• Extreme abuse survey [r]: Add brief definition or description

Consequently, have the full name in the definition becomes redundant. Chris Day 04:48, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

As for getting the article approved you will need to get a Psychology editor to fill out the metadata and start the approval process. I'm not sure if there are any active ones around but you could try using the mailing list. Possibly you could post a request at CZ the forum too. Sorry I can't be of any more help. Chris Day 04:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

my talk

Hi Neil, thanks for the note. I'm getting ready to call it quits tonight. I'll take a look tomorrow morning. The last I saw, i was still really concerned with how the article was more concerned with the details of abuse rather than the details of the book. Do you understand the difference? It is subtle. Keep inmind, we also have a family friendly policy here as well, so some of the goary details will have to go, I think. D. Matt Innis 05:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I have cut out all of the gory details and cut way back on the details of the abuse. Hope this is closer to what works.Neil Brick 05:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I have made further edits to address your comments above. Please let me know if you think it is ready for main space now. Thanks. Neil Brick 05:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay, Neil, I made some changes, too. Mostly re-arranging now as you cleaned up most of my concerns. I think if you are happy with it, you can put it back and we'll let the rest of the authors go at it. We still need a literature editor to take a look at it, but as long as we don't get too much into the details in this book, I think we can avoid the psychology and health science aspects. However, I would like to see articles about all of these issues that handle them neutrally and without passion on either side. It is important. D. Matt Innis 02:21, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Your papers

Hi Neil, your profile currently states that you have "written many research papers on child abuse issues". However, I did not find any of them via a Google Scholar search for "Neil Brick" child abuse (nor in ISI Web of Knowledge). Can you thus please provide the metadata (or, better yet, links to online versions) of, say, the top five or top ten of your papers? Thanks! --Daniel Mietchen 09:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

quotation

It has been in one of the other article pages, where it was removed several times. If I'm wrong about this, I will apologize and remove my quote, but I don't think that I am. Hayford Peirce 19:09, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Hayford, I do not recall it ever being in any other article. Please show me where it was. Neil Brick 19:14, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Please give me a day or so to research it. Thanks. Hayford Peirce 20:04, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Sure, please let me know if you find it anywhere. I cannot recall ever using it anywhere else. Neil Brick 20:07, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Suggestions on how to proceed

Hi Neil, in reply to your recent mail, I have the following suggestions:

1. Much of building an encyclopedia is about establishing context, and relevant context already exists at child abuse and child sexual abuse. So please think about adding to these pages rather than splitting the topic unnecessarily. And keep in mind that this is not the place to advocate but to inform.
2. Check how articles on the subject are covered in other encyclopedic environments, e.g. in the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica, and how this can be integrated with CZ:Neutrality policy.
3. As for books, specifically, I do not think any of the ones you started currently merit an entire article at CZ. What you could perhaps do, though, is add them - along with less biased sources, or ones tilted into the other direction - as items to articles on the relevant subjects. To do this, it would be best to give each book a library page using its ISBN, to which short comments could then be added (examples at CZ:Ref:ISBN:067976811 and CZ:Ref:DOI:10.1038/nature05453), and link to them (corresponding pages at Ecological footprint/Bibliography and Model organism/Bibliography).

I hope this helps. --Daniel Mietchen 21:48, 1 May 2009 (UTC)