User talk:John Stephenson/Archive 7

John Stephenson

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nominations

John, I finally got around to accepting the MC and EC nominations and writing a short statement (one day shy of the deadline). Thank you for trying to move the process forward, and for nominating people, including me.Pat Palmer 01:51, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't respond to your notice about my getting nominated to the EC. It went to my spam folder. I really wanted to run! (Chunbum Park 19:53, 8 August 2013 (UTC))

Never mind, next time. :) Actually, that seems to be a real problem with anything CZ-related: every single ballot paper sent in went straight into the email account's spam folder until I set up an explicit filter for them. John Stephenson 19:57, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

John, what is an explicit filter, and how did you set it up? For my continuing education. Are you saying that messages sent via 'E-Mail this user' goes to users' spam? Anthony.Sebastian 20:16, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't know if all e-mails sent via 'E-mail this user' always go into Gmail's spam folder. But certainly, this happened during the election. I went into the Gmail account and there's a link in the settings to 'Filters', which gives you an option to never send e-mail to the spam folder when it satisfies the conditions you've specified. This prevented ballots being labelled spam.

Actually, there may be a more general problem with CZ-related e-mail going to spam folders. I've had three cases recently of account applicants reporting that the e-mail in which they are invited to confirm their address when requesting a CZ account either didn't arrive at all (one case) or ended up in their spam folders (two cases). (I confirmed them manually.) I don't believe there is anything much we can do about this, as it's to do with how their ISPs' servers handle mail. John Stephenson 20:23, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Can we tell them on the Request Account page to add us to their safe senders list, tell them how for several email clients? Anthony.Sebastian 22:05, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that could be worked in there. A briefer be-sure-to-check-your-spam-folder message would also work. John Stephenson 13:03, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for sorting out Charles Taylor. I had made a real mess of him. --Martin Wyatt 20:30, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Strange email notifications

John, I'm getting email notifications about actions on CZ that occurred months, or years, ago. These notices are obviously related to what's happening now. Seems weird for CZ to tell me now that something was moved on 9 December 2012. Any idea why it's behaving this way? Russell D. Jones 20:08, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Not sure at this stage. Can you forward me a couple of examples of those e-mails, including the full headers? Thanks. John Stephenson 21:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

History Page Header

John, at the top of the "history page" for approved articles is the header "Please note: This page only shows the name(s) of the Constable(s) who carried out the mechanics of the Approval process. To see the names of the contributors who actually wrote this article, see the History page for the Draft article." As part of this project to move mainspace approved articles to the "Citable Version" subpage, should not also that header be moved to the "Citable Version" History Page? Further, the header be removed from the mainspace page, no? It's obviously false if not misleading. The mainspace history page now does not "only show the name(s) of the Constable(s) who carried out the mechanics of the approval process" but does show the history of the draft text. Russell D. Jones 15:52, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me. I find that the red banner only appears when I'm logged-out, which is why it hasn't been addressed thus far. Will look into it. John Stephenson 15:59, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I get it whether or not I'm logged in. Jones 16:19, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Weird. I can't get the banner to appear in the history lists of /Citable Version subpages, so I've deleted it for now. However, I can still see it when logged-out! I keep seeing different things depending on login status, e.g. in this new category I see 69 pages listed when I'm logged-out but 135 when I'm logged in. John Stephenson 16:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Update: I've added a note the header that appears at the top of every /Citable Version subpage, directing the reader to the main article's history list, since I can't get the actual history banner to work on subpages. John Stephenson 16:51, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Here's a clue: don't use the pinkwich skin. I don't--I see it. Jones 16:53, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Talk:CIO

John, could you take a look at Talk:CIO and the history, and the former draft-page history. I'm having a hard time believing that CIO did not have any talk discussion. There isn't even a notification from the approvals manager that the draft had been approved! Jones 15:25, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. I was moving pages in accordance with the Citable Version policy and something went wrong (server issue?) that I didn't notice at the time, such that two moves took place, leading to a circular redirect, instead of one. Also, you'll notice all the information in the header of the Talk page has disappeared. That is a consequence of abolishing /Draft subpages, because lots of templates refer to them. Trying to fix it... John Stephenson 16:49, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

citable version

Hi John, that's a great addition to the subpages format. I'm glad you managed to navigate the mess of code to implement it. Hope it was not too confusing. Chris Day 02:31, 4 October 2013 (UTC)