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I have moved this page [[User:Pradyumna Singh/Santa Claus|here]] and deleted one of its images, since the material is obviously not a serious contribution to the encyclopedia. Furthermore: the image was a potential copyright violation, in that there is no publicly-accessible evidence of a Creative Commons licence; it included a promotional link; it incorporates Wikipedia material (which we discourage); and it has recently been the subject of a [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Santa_Claus_makes_an_anonymous_donation_to_Wikipedia%27s_fundraising_drive.jpg controversy on WikiMedia Commons]. Please do not re-upload it. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 18:40, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I have moved this page [[User:Pradyumna Singh/Santa Claus|here]] and deleted one of its images, since the material is obviously not a serious contribution to the encyclopedia. Furthermore: the image was a potential copyright violation, in that there is no publicly-accessible evidence of a Creative Commons licence; it included a promotional link; it incorporates Wikipedia material (which we discourage); and it has recently been the subject of a [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Santa_Claus_makes_an_anonymous_donation_to_Wikipedia%27s_fundraising_drive.jpg controversy on WikiMedia Commons]. Please do not re-upload it. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 18:40, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
:I am glad to learn that material from Wikipedia is discouraged at the Citizendium and I trust there are similar measures in place to discourage Citizendium material being reused in Wikipedia. Although I have no intention of re-uploading the image, there is an important author issue which needs private deliberations at editor levels, or once the email system is re-activated.
:I cannot agree with you ''that there is no publicly-accessible evidence of a Creative Commons licence''. The image has a very clear CC licence and a licence trail which is publicly and permanently archived over at Wikipedia Commons irrespective of the outcome of the deletion requests over there. The Creative Commons licencing for this image was particularly solid considering the scrutiny it had been subjected to at Wikipedia. The "promotional" link is compulsory as part of the Creative Commons licence to identify the author and media source and to sufficiently protect this encyclopedia project in the unlikely event of an infringement notice being received. Such links usually have "reciprocal" benefits which boost Wikipedia's ranking in organic search, a similar backlink from a "strong" site would help CZ even more than it does Wikipedia to rank well.
:'''NB:''' I am always cautious about copyright licences, permissions and attribution when uploading media to Citizendium's hosting considering CZ's circumstances.
:If it is Citizendium policy that Creative Commons media, especially images, from Wikipedia Commons, is not allowed for reuse at Citizendium, it will make it very difficult for serious article contributors, now and in the future. It will inevitably lead to situations where Mediawiki based project will be compelled to activate the highly undesirable [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/InstantCommons Instant Commons] feature, or be left with self promoting contributors uploading their original research accompanied with self created images. [[User:Pradyumna Singh|Pradyumna Singh]] ([[User talk:Pradyumna Singh|talk]]) 05:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

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Santa Claus

I have moved this page here and deleted one of its images, since the material is obviously not a serious contribution to the encyclopedia. Furthermore: the image was a potential copyright violation, in that there is no publicly-accessible evidence of a Creative Commons licence; it included a promotional link; it incorporates Wikipedia material (which we discourage); and it has recently been the subject of a controversy on WikiMedia Commons. Please do not re-upload it. John Stephenson (talk) 18:40, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I am glad to learn that material from Wikipedia is discouraged at the Citizendium and I trust there are similar measures in place to discourage Citizendium material being reused in Wikipedia. Although I have no intention of re-uploading the image, there is an important author issue which needs private deliberations at editor levels, or once the email system is re-activated.
I cannot agree with you that there is no publicly-accessible evidence of a Creative Commons licence. The image has a very clear CC licence and a licence trail which is publicly and permanently archived over at Wikipedia Commons irrespective of the outcome of the deletion requests over there. The Creative Commons licencing for this image was particularly solid considering the scrutiny it had been subjected to at Wikipedia. The "promotional" link is compulsory as part of the Creative Commons licence to identify the author and media source and to sufficiently protect this encyclopedia project in the unlikely event of an infringement notice being received. Such links usually have "reciprocal" benefits which boost Wikipedia's ranking in organic search, a similar backlink from a "strong" site would help CZ even more than it does Wikipedia to rank well.
NB: I am always cautious about copyright licences, permissions and attribution when uploading media to Citizendium's hosting considering CZ's circumstances.
If it is Citizendium policy that Creative Commons media, especially images, from Wikipedia Commons, is not allowed for reuse at Citizendium, it will make it very difficult for serious article contributors, now and in the future. It will inevitably lead to situations where Mediawiki based project will be compelled to activate the highly undesirable Instant Commons feature, or be left with self promoting contributors uploading their original research accompanied with self created images. Pradyumna Singh (talk) 05:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)